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标题: Finally,I knew QAF is not a fairy tale. [打印本页]

作者: 阿杰的天使 时间: 2007-2-7 19:31 标题: Finally,I knew QAF is not a fairy tale.

First, let's always remember these...

(J&B in bed)
J: I had a dream last night that we were in our new house.
B:  Cooking, gardening, sitting in front of fire...
J: Not exactly. You were riding me in the stabile, diving into me in the pool, slamming me on the tennis court.
B:  Well, that gives a new meaning to US open.
J: Another is start president myself. //这句听得不是很清楚。
B:  You would rather just cuddle?
J: What?
B:  I said you would rather just lie here...
J: No, no, no. I heard what you said is cuddle.
B:  So?
J: So I have never ever want to heard you even use that word much unless actually you want to do it.
B:  OK, Can we just turn the lights on?
J: No, no. Brian Kinney fucks, sucks, rims, rams, but never cuddles.
B:  OK, so I used the word _____________, forgive me, I apologize, I'll never do it again.//__部分听不清
J: No. It's more than just that. Every day we get closer to being married, the person I know gets further away.
B:  I'm right here.
J: But it's not you. Looks like you, feels like you, but you, you would never go to your own step(?) party and not fuck every hot guy insight, you would never be more interested in gardening than getting in laid.
B:  I'm just trying to make you happy.
J: I want you to do what makes you happy, not me.
B:  What about you?
J: (sigh...)
B:  Yes, you, not going to New York?
J: Fuck New York.
B:  Contrast(?) artwork?
J: Fuck New York world.
B:  Why? Because you're afraid?
J: I'm not afraid.
B:  Then what?
J: I don't want it.
B:  Bullshit.
J: I don't. It means nothing.
B:  Would it still mean nothing if I wasn't here?
J: How do you expect me to give you a rational response when the circumstances you've presented are completely oppositional and as such have no basis in reality?//服了Randy的舌头，这么长的句子连气都不用喘的。
B: Just answer the goddamn question.
J: I don't know.
B:  Well I do. I don't want to live with someone who sacrifices his life in called of love, to be with me.
J: Neither do I.
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(In Brian's loft)
B:  When is your flight?
J: Ten.
J: I can finally find a place to stay at least at friendly east village, but finding a workplace could be difficult, apparently everything goes inflation.
B:  We all manage, always do.
J: I'll be back. And you'll come there we're gonna see each other of times...
B:  You don't know that. Neither do I. Whether we see each other next weekend, or next month, never again, doesn't matter, it's only time.
J: (拿起戒指盒)You don't return them?
B:  I don't return them.
J: (抚摸戒指)We don't need rings and vows that prove we love each other. We've already known that. //总算听清了
B:  You did it.
J: Did what?
B:  Became the best homosexual we could possibly be.
（Then J&B 凝视、微笑、kiss, then do it, and then Justin消失。）
以上，会有些错误。
********************************
Christ!
I can't believe they made up all these, I mean, the Producer.
QAF ends as same as the beginning, Brian and Michel dancing at Babylon, no Justin.
Now, I don't know what to say and how to say it, whether in English or Chinese.
After years of being there for each other, they both get maturity; love each other more and more deeply, and then, guess what? They move on!
Rational, but unacceptable!
If I were in the same situation, I would make the same choices, but haven't we already had enough pains and hardships in the real world? Can't they just give us some beautiful dreams and fairy tales in the soap opera?
When Brian said: ''it's only time." Maybe someone think it romantic. But what I see is time can smooth everything, including love and pains. World changes. Things changes.  People changes. Finally there will be a day that they fell in love with someone else or in another relationship.
People are always struggling in the real world, making endless choices in order to survive. However, if Ross & Rachel in 'friends' could finally get together, I can't understand why the producers separate Justin & Brian by distance and time.
Being brilliant or having talents is not a reason of not deserving their lover's company.
Something ridiculous is I can't help imagining being gay is the only reason that the producers prefer not to give them a perfect ending.
Look. The lesbians moved, Justin and Brian were separated, Emmit and Ted still couldn't settle down although they were always willing to. The only one that seems perfect happy is Michel's family, but there are more than one time bomb in it.
Finally, I knew QAF is not a fairy tale as well as the real gay world.

[ 本帖最后由阿杰的天使于 2007-2-9 15:54 编辑 ]

作者: iewnus25 时间: 2007-2-7 20:07

em02 求中文版。。

作者: 阿杰的天使 时间: 2007-2-7 20:33

原帖由 iewnus25 于 2007-2-7 20:07 发表
em02 求中文版。。

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中文版，偶发那些牢骚时用的就是英文啊，
还是说前面那些对话，那是5X13里的台词，
不过我开始怀疑我看到的结局有问题，
因为那集中间有些地方有背景音乐有人张嘴却听不到说话，不太像正式发布的，不知道D版商哪里搞来的，
而且Justin&Brian make love时的歌也不是Ambition，是一个男人在唱什么"now she's gone ,now she's gone"
另外那么个结局竟然只有偶一个人在抱怨，
NND,总之偶看到那个结局让偶很郁闷，从昨晚到现在还没缓过来呢，想起来就想哭。

谁能告诉偶是不是另有个更好的结局，
BTW:如果有，而且上面的对话没人翻译过，偶提供中文版，大家同郁闷郁闷。

作者: 我爱Gale 时间: 2007-2-8 11:17

偶也没缓过来，都过去有半年了，还是会心痛。
不是ambition？
虽然不满结局，但那歌还不难听。一直想下呢，没找到。

作者: tonizh 时间: 2007-2-8 11:23

生存是第一的。爱情是第二的。

作者: 阿杰的天使 时间: 2007-2-8 13:48

不是Ambition，是love burns，也不难听，也很应景，就是让人更郁闷，
来比较一下这两个歌词，看看哪个更郁闷，
Never thought I'd see her go away 从未想到会看到她走
She learned I loved her today          今天她知道了我爱她
Never thought I'd see her cry       从未想到会看到她哭
And I learned how to love her today 今天我学会了怎样去爱
Never thought I'd rather die          从未想到我宁愿死去
Than try to keep her by my side    也不愿尽我所能去挽留她（不知道怎么翻译好，潜台词是留也留不住）

Now she's gone love burns inside me 现在她走了，爱在我心里燃烧
Now she's gone love burns inside me
Now she's gone love burns inside me

Nothing else can hurt us now          现在其他任何事都不能伤害我们了
No loss, our love's been hung on a cross （这句不会说）
Nothing seems to make a sound       万籁俱寂（^_^偶随便写的）
And now it's all so clear somehow    不知为什么现在一切都如此空旷
Nothing really matters now             所有事都无所谓了
Now we're gone and on our way    现在我们走了，

Now she's gone love burns inside me
Now she's gone love burns inside me
Now she's gone love burns inside me

She cuts my skin and bruise my lips （以下貌似QAF里没用）
She's everything to me
She tears my clothes and burns my eyes
She's all I want to see
She brings the cold and scars my soul
She's heaven sent to me

Now she's gone love burns inside me
Now she's gone love burns inside me
Now she's gone love burns inside me

Never thought I'd leave you like the way I do, yeah
Kiss my love and I wish you're gone
You can kiss my love and I wish you're gone
Never thought I'd leave you like the way that I do
Kiss my love and I wish you're gone
You can kiss my love and I wish you're gone

Now she's gone love burns inside me
Now she's gone love burns inside me
Now she's gone love burns inside me
－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－
印象最深的是某男声一直在绝望的唱Now she's gone nothing really matters now
更增加了偶的郁闷

作者: krissy 时间: 2007-2-8 14:06

看惯了大团圆结局的我也是不能接受这样的结局的，恨的我想砸东西。不过重新看了3遍以后，觉得这样的结局真的很酷，不是冷酷，是和brian一样的酷--举手投足--说话行事。既然两人都对彼此的感情没有改变，有没有那个结婚形式真的都可以。可以接受，为他们感动...and everything of QAF

作者: 阿杰的天使 时间: 2007-2-8 14:25

原帖由 krissy 于 2007-2-8 14:06 发表
看惯了大团圆结局的我也是不能接受这样的结局的，恨的我想砸东西。不过重新看了3遍以后，觉得这样的结局真的很酷，不是冷酷，是和brian一样的酷--举手投足--说话行事。既然两人都对彼此的感情没有改变，有没有那 ...

有没有婚礼，有没有戒指，都不重要
这是个开放性的结局
但时间，距离，这都是人力不能抗拒的东西
再听听俩人最后XXOO时的配乐，看看歌词，
无论是Ambition还是我听到的love burns，都不是很好的暗示

作者: kume 时间: 2007-2-8 16:05

B: Well, that gives a new meaning to US open.

Ohhhhhhhh!
that's amazing......
How cool he is!!!!

作者: 阿杰的天使 时间: 2007-2-8 18:09

原帖由 kume 于 2007-2-8 16:05 发表
B: Well, that gives a new meaning to US open.

Ohhhhhhhh!
that's amazing......
How cool he is!!!!

呵呵，可惜Justin回答的那句偶米听清楚。
cool么？总觉得Brian这句话是在敷衍

作者: sakuyawan 时间: 2007-2-8 21:25

对于BJ来说更重要的是过程
无论编剧怎么编在我心里他们永远是在一起的！
Brian and Justin, they could be amazing!

作者: matrix8411 时间: 2007-2-9 19:48

我也心痛啊~
关于结局，我也认为最后两人都有了自己的生活，分隔两地,最后可能真的是任由时间冲淡一切. 没有束缚，没有牺牲，如果爱他，就不能成为他的负累。曾经相爱过，就是永恒。
就像BEN 对M说的，even it's just one day, isn't it worth?

= =
是天使？还是小A？我对不起你啊啊啊~em20

作者: 阿杰的天使 时间: 2007-2-10 13:57

原帖由 matrix8411 于 2007-2-9 19:48 发表
even it's just one day, isn't it worth?

是天使？还是小A？我对不起你啊啊啊~

和HIV阳性，只能这么想了啊，无奈

栗子，真想吃了你啊，小A是哪位来着？不认识
鄙姓杨＝＝|||其实不姓杨来着

[ 本帖最后由阿杰的天使于 2007-2-10 14:13 编辑 ]

作者: julia 时间: 2007-2-10 19:23

这5季故事就第一季好看，说的都是爱情，不像后面几季，又是凶杀又是市长选举的，人物关系又混乱，还是第一季好看

作者: matrix8411 时间: 2007-2-10 22:43

第二季开头？看到BRI把那条染血丝巾穿在衣服里面的时候，真的是眼泪瀑布飘啊~em04

= =
杨~
嘿嘿~
你出现频率低了，所以没想起你来~
你取的这个名字无法给我啥联想em22

作者: just-in 时间: 2007-2-11 13:34

我也爱看friend!
but friend 是喜剧，qaf is not
如果justin不走，想想有一天翻开杂志，看上面介绍末各画家则么则么好，和他年纪相仿什么的，他内心的失落
而我也相信在最后一幕跳舞的brian不会再是五年前的那个他
若他们后来再爱上别人（justin还是有可能的）分开也只是早晚的事
若他们不离不弃，那既是他们的幸福也是我们的幸福

作者: 阿杰的天使 时间: 2007-2-11 17:17

原帖由 <i>julia</i> 于 2007-2-10 19:23 发表
这5季故事就第一季好看，说的都是爱情，不像后面几季，又是凶杀又是市长选举的，人物关系又混乱，还是第一季好看

点头同意，感情戏的话第一季比较多，
后面几季起起伏伏，一波未平一波又起的，让人觉得这帮人连过个清静日子都难，真TMD残酷
不过不找点儿事儿肥皂剧就拍不下去了，而且也是成长过程吧

原帖由 just-in 于 2007-2-11 13:34 发表
我也爱看friend!
but friend 是喜剧，qaf is not

QAF蛮搞笑的啊，有些地方，虽然是苦中作乐>_<
总比Lost，Desperate housewives，X-File那种充满了罪恶的东西轻松

[ 本帖最后由阿杰的天使于 2007-2-11 17:21 编辑 ]

作者: 黑木茜 时间: 2007-2-11 19:05

开放吗？？
我不觉得  我觉得哪怕他们节了婚在走都可以啊。。。。
那个时候心态都不一样了
感觉走的不是一个人而是一个注定和你捆在一起的你生命中的人。。。
可是这样就是什么都不是了  什么都是未知= =
大家不喜欢这样的结局不就是因为我们都知道他们可能在一次的分开了，或者是永远的分开了吗？？
偶就是不喜欢这个结局~~em19 em19 em19

作者: 纯钧 时间: 2007-2-11 23:30

天那，刚看到510，乘着载511的这点时间上来逛了下，结果却看到大家在砸结局。。。
不敢看下去了，B/J不要分开那em20 em20 em20

作者: 2850426 时间: 2007-2-12 16:49 标题: 回复 #15 julia 的帖子

同意 QAF太悲了看完后整个人心都闷闷的

作者: wlhy 时间: 2007-2-12 21:55

第一次看513地时候，Ambition地音乐响起的时候，
听到“There's not a love that's perfect－－－－－Ain't a love as perfect”实在是有点受不了

作者: sugino 时间: 2007-4-1 02:42 标题: 對於感情

Justin多半是樂觀的...
Brian一直以來都很悲觀
我甚至懷疑他從一開始就不斷恐懼著Justin的離開，甚至深信對方總有一天一定會離開他
所以513 Brian這樣的回答也算情有可緣......他在感情上是如此退縮的一個人啊....

感覺這兩個人感情的歸屬如何，那命脈都維繫在Justin的手上了

作者: hei224224 时间: 2007-4-1 09:45

j走了，我很怀疑，在queer的世界里，他还会遇到像Brian一样优秀并深爱他的人吗？
为什么他们认为牺牲就不是爱呢？爱对方并为他改变也是一种幸福啊。现实生活里的爱人也是相互影响的阿。

作者: 哥哥的蜻蜓 时间: 2007-4-1 11:22

maybe that is the best way for them
but my brian did really hurt

作者: bunny_duen 时间: 2007-4-11 21:44

这个结局有无数贴子无数fans讨论过了，还有无数同人文写续篇，就象红楼梦，仁者见仁智者见智，总之想自已愿意想的就行了。

楼主看的版子虽不是正式发表的，但结局还是那个结局，没问题的。而且不少很久以前就一直追这部片的大人都认为这个预发的版本音乐什么的更棒的说。

BTW：513的英文字幕在字幕区有下载，可以不用那么累地练听力了。

[ 本帖最后由 bunny_duen 于 2007-4-11 23:02 编辑 ]

作者: maotouwmj 时间: 2007-4-11 22:14

终究还是很郁闷

作者: liancarter 时间: 2007-4-11 23:27

Of course it's not a fary tale. It says about the true queer's life, which is real enough to touch everyone, right?
But it doesn't mean B & J won't have a happy ending. Maybe someday in the near furture,they'd meet on the street, finding each other still single. What will happen next? Just fantastic~~~
Mr Editor left us a hope, a new story, and we all believe the life ahead will be just fabulous.

作者: ldl1234 时间: 2007-6-27 10:54

我要努力学英语！！！

作者: ashin-ella 时间: 2007-9-19 14:05

每次看到还是会心痛啊

作者: 叶上开 时间: 2007-9-21 15:05

大家都很强啊。尤其是楼主，凭听的也能弄这么多台词下来。。

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